Legislature(2003 - 2004)

02/11/2004 03:20 PM House L&C

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HB  80-PROHIBIT SOFT DRINKS IN SCHOOL                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON  announced that the  next order of  business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL  NO. 80, "An Act prohibiting sales  of certain soft                                                               
drinks in public schools."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1990                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MARY KAPSNER,  Alaska State  Legislature, sponsor                                                               
of HB  80, explained that  she prefers to characterize  this bill                                                               
as  requiring   schools  to   substitute  sodas   and  carbonated                                                               
beverages with more healthful drinks.   Noting that she'd come up                                                               
with  the idea  herself,  she expressed  concern  for the  rising                                                               
epidemic of obesity across the  nation, particularly pediatric or                                                               
childhood obesity.  Emphasizing the  desire to refocus the system                                                               
so it  is a health care  system and not a  "disease care" system,                                                               
she remarked, "I  feel that school should be a  place of learning                                                               
and habit  formation.  And  especially while kids are  in school,                                                               
we should be promoting healthy habits and healthy nutrition."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAPSNER reported that  she'd attended a conference                                                               
in Portland this past summer.   She mentioned a call to action by                                                               
the surgeon general on overweight  and obesity, saying two-thirds                                                               
of women are overweight or obese in the nation.  She said:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     That overweight  and obesity is  not just a  concern of                                                                    
     those  struggling to  lose a  few  pounds or  a lot  of                                                                    
     pounds;  it is  really ...  the next  burgeoning, major                                                                    
     public  health  concern.     For  adults,  obesity  has                                                                    
     doubled in  the last  20 years.   And  for adolescents,                                                                    
     it's  tripled in  the last  20 years.   Again,  this is                                                                    
     across all ethnic groups and ages.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAPSNER  said it  was pointed  out that  for obese                                                               
kids, their quality of life is  equivalent to the quality of life                                                               
kids  face  who  are  fighting  cancer  and  under  chemotherapy.                                                               
Furthermore,  in the  last year  $117  billion was  spent by  the                                                               
federal  government   for  obesity-related   diseases,  including                                                               
indirect costs  such as loss  of wages and future  earnings lost.                                                               
Representative Kapsner asked,  "When you compare that  to the $87                                                               
billion that  people were  outraged that we  are spending  on the                                                               
war in  Iraq, and the  outcry that  that brought forth,  where is                                                               
the corresponding outcry for the  cost of obesity and overweight-                                                               
related diseases?"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1840                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAPSNER acknowledged  that  soda  isn't the  only                                                               
factor in obesity.  She told members:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     My hope  is that  this will  just be  one segment  of a                                                                    
     host  of  bills that  we  can  put forward  that  would                                                                    
     address  health  issues.  ...   A  lot  of  people  are                                                                    
     concerned,  not only  about soda  in vending  machines,                                                                    
     but also  unhealthy snack food in  vending machines and                                                                    
     also school  districts having a rotating  menu of fast-                                                                    
     food carriers  coming in throughout  the week.   That's                                                                    
     one  of the  examples that  Juneau-Douglas High  School                                                                    
     has:   every  day of  the  week they  have a  different                                                                    
     fast-food industry preparing their meal.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     I  understand  that  this is  primarily  a  family  and                                                                    
     parent and  community responsibility, but I  think that                                                                    
     it's important  that we get  the discussion  going, and                                                                    
     this was a good starting point for me.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAPSNER   addressed  concern   about  eliminating                                                               
revenue from vending machines.   Noting that Oakland, California,                                                               
has  mandated that  schools substitute  more  healthful foods  in                                                               
vending  machines, she  remarked, "They  have actually  made more                                                               
money  for their  school's discretionary  funding."   She pointed                                                               
out that soda industries also [bottle] water and juices.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1733                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     If a  family doesn't  want to take  on the  job, aren't                                                                    
     they just transferring  it to the school?   Number two,                                                                    
     we have drugs  in schools, alcohol in  schools, we have                                                                    
     guns  on  school  property, and  we  have  bullying  in                                                                    
     schools, and all kinds of rules.   It seems like we are                                                                    
     overwhelmed with things  that we have to  do in schools                                                                    
     to protect the kids.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     This seems  like just  one more  way for  government to                                                                    
     have a control in schools that  I would just as soon be                                                                    
     up to  the principal  and the  parents in  that school,                                                                    
     rather than  people that are  sitting in Juneau.   Am I                                                                    
     wrong?                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1686                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KAPSNER   agreed   those   are   valid   points.                                                               
Highlighting  $177 billion,  however,  she  remarked, "As  public                                                               
policymakers we're not  engaged in the prevention  aspect as much                                                               
as I  think we  could be.   I am  a ...  federal taxpayer,  and I                                                               
shudder  at the  thought that  we are  losing $117  billion every                                                               
year, and  it's going  to get  worse."  She  cited an  example of                                                               
going to a  fourth- and fifth-grade classroom  where the children                                                               
were very large.  Speaking of  the teacher of that classroom, she                                                               
remarked:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     She said  that the kids  are getting bigger  and bigger                                                                    
     every  year.    She  said  that  she  promotes  healthy                                                                    
     choices.  She talks a  blue streak about making healthy                                                                    
     choices, but  ... a lot  of times it's the  parents who                                                                    
     are not  hearing that.   I think  that, in the  vein of                                                                    
     prevention, we should have the discussion.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO noted that HB  80 prohibits the sale of soft                                                               
drinks, but  not the  consumption; thus  students can  bring soft                                                               
drinks to school.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAPSNER said:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     I  wasn't interested  in  making  soda pop  contraband.                                                                    
     Like you say, we have guns  and drugs and alcohol and a                                                                    
     lot of other  things that are contraband.   I just felt                                                                    
     that for  schools to  be generating  a lot  of revenue,                                                                    
     and in some cases ... --  the other thing that I wanted                                                                    
     to prevent,  ... in some  states, school  districts are                                                                    
     so  hard  up  for  money  that  they  are  engaging  in                                                                    
     contracts  with fast-food  industries, and  ... at  one                                                                    
     point in Colorado, teachers were  issued a mandate from                                                                    
     their administrator saying, "You  cannot let kids bring                                                                    
     in  sodas from  home, and  you have  to let  them drink                                                                    
     sodas in class,  because we have to make  our quota, we                                                                    
     have to  meet our  ... contractual obligations  to sell                                                                    
     'x' amount  of whatever."   So this was  a preventative                                                                    
     step in that regard, too.   ... I didn't want Alaska to                                                                    
     get to that point.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1571                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CRAWFORD, cosponsor,  expressed strong support for                                                               
the  bill.    He  shared personal  experiences  from  his  foster                                                               
parenting  of dealing  with dental  issues because  of the  sugar                                                               
content of sodas.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAPSNER  talked  about  the cost  to  Alaska  for                                                               
dental problems of school-aged children caused by soda pop.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN, cosponsor,  said he  thinks mixed  messages                                                               
are being sent to school  children when health classes teach good                                                               
nutrition but  schools don't support  this teaching  because they                                                               
have vending  machines.   He said when  children come  to school,                                                               
the  school is  acting "in  loco parentis"  and needs  to support                                                               
health.   He added that  he doesn't think sports  programs should                                                               
be  funded by  bringing in  unhealthful  food and  drinks to  the                                                               
schools.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1381                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
STEVE   CLEARY,  Executive   Director,  Alaska   Public  Interest                                                               
Research Group (AkPIRG), testified:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     I was following  this bill last year,  when, I believe,                                                                    
     it didn't  get a committee hearing.   So when I  saw it                                                                    
     come  back up  again this  year, I  was excited  to see                                                                    
     that there  are bipartisan cosponsors and  an effort to                                                                    
     get it  going in the  House.  I'm really  excited about                                                                    
     it.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     I did see a couple  of good additions in there, talking                                                                    
     about food  items that derive  more than 35  percent of                                                                    
     their calories  from fat  - so  addressing some  of the                                                                    
     concerns about  having other things than  soda that are                                                                    
     unhealthy as well, ... encompassed in this bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     I think  what Representative  Lynn was just  getting to                                                                    
     was exactly  the point that I  was going to make.   ...                                                                    
     You learn in  class how to eat healthy,  how to consume                                                                    
     healthy products, and then ...  kids are bombarded with                                                                    
     advertisements with  soda machines,  some of  whom are,                                                                    
     pretty  soon, going  to start  talking  to us,  playing                                                                    
     music and  enticing them to  be unhealthy.  We  need to                                                                    
     give them as  much of a leg  up as we can  in the early                                                                    
     parts  of  their  lives when  they  are  forming  their                                                                    
     habits.  So,  I'm excited to see this  bill moving, and                                                                    
     I urge your support for it.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1282                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MARIE   LAVIGNE,  Executive   Director,   Alaska  Public   Health                                                               
Association, said  she represents over 200  members across Alaska                                                               
who  are  committed to  sound  health  policy and  improving  the                                                               
public's health.  She said  the bill requests an important public                                                               
health strategy  that uses both  policy and  environmental change                                                               
to improve health outcomes for  children.  It directs schools and                                                               
their  vendors to  offer healthful  and nutritious  beverages and                                                               
food selections  in lieu  of sugar-  or caffeine-filled  soda and                                                               
junk  food.   These  are important  components  in public  health                                                               
strategies underway  to address  childhood obesity,  oral health,                                                               
and sound nutrition.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LAVIGNE noted  that also  of concern  is that  teenagers are                                                               
consuming a large  portion of their daily  calories and nutrition                                                               
from  soda and  junk  foods.   She  reported, "Our  pediatricians                                                               
report many  teens experience calcium  and iron  deficiencies, as                                                               
well as  concerns with excessive  calories and weight gain.   Our                                                               
dentists show  concerns for the  oral health of children,  one of                                                               
the  largest consumers  of soda  in recent  history."   She asked                                                               
that children  be allowed to  make the healthiest  choices, while                                                               
allowing  schools to  continue to  generate  revenue from  vendor                                                               
sales.   She  remarked,  "We applaud  Representative Kapsner  for                                                               
bringing this bill forth and  for continuing the public dialog on                                                               
this issue."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. LAVIGNE  pointed out  that schools are  often used  by sports                                                               
teams,  especially in  rural communities,  later in  the evenings                                                               
than 5 p.m.   Removing  the time  of day  would allow  vendors to                                                               
stock healthier  products for  all of  its sales,  she suggested.                                                               
She closed by saying:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Please keep in mind that  our schools provide the total                                                                    
     learning  environment  for  developing  and  practicing                                                                    
     lifelong behaviors.  Healthy  schools, defined as those                                                                    
     that support good nutrition  and physical activity, are                                                                    
     part  of the  total learning  environment that  produce                                                                    
     healthy  students.   Ensuring that  healthy snacks  and                                                                    
     foods  are  provided  in vending  machines,  in  school                                                                    
     stores, and  other venues  within the  school's control                                                                    
     helps to reach this goal.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Schools nationwide  that have made these  changes offer                                                                    
     very  exciting  success   stories,  demonstrating  that                                                                    
     students will  buy and will  consume healthy  foods and                                                                    
     beverages   when  those   options  are   tasty,  easily                                                                    
     accessible, and priced right.   House Bill 80 is a step                                                                    
     in the right direction.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1153                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO asked  Ms.  Lavigne whether  she has  spent                                                               
much time in  the schools and, if so, had  noticed if any vending                                                               
machines there sold fruit juice and water.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. LAVIGNE replied  that there were some  fruit-juice blends and                                                               
water,  and that  the machines  were generating  a lot  of money.                                                               
She also said some schools have  chosen, on their own, to look at                                                               
making policy  changes.  She remarked,  "Certainly, school boards                                                               
may choose  to make  policy decisions.   Every  time they  make a                                                               
contract  with their  vendor,  they can  activate  some of  those                                                               
choices  already.   What this  does is  looks at  a comprehensive                                                               
change across all schools in Alaska."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1085                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JULIAN NAYLOR, M.D., Alaskan Diabetes Consultant, Alaska Native                                                                 
Medical Center, testified:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     I  travel  around the  state  of  Alaska helping  treat                                                                    
     Alaska Native  people who are suffering  from diabetes,                                                                    
     who are  at risk for  diabetes and also  suffering from                                                                    
     obesity.   I  would like  to lend  my support  to House                                                                    
     Bill 80.   As  somebody who  is on  ... the  front line                                                                    
     with Alaska  Native people, helping with  these chronic                                                                    
     disease  problems, I  see the  effects  of the  growing                                                                    
     problem   with  obesity   in  our   children  and   our                                                                    
     adolescents.    I am  frequently  asked  to consult  on                                                                    
     young  people who  are battling  health problems  [that                                                                    
     have] ... to do with obesity.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     One of  the first  questions I ask  them is,  "How much                                                                    
     soda pop  are you drinking?"   Especially in  the rural                                                                    
     areas of Alaska,  it is amazing how much  soda kids can                                                                    
     take  in one  day.   This  is a  huge  source of  empty                                                                    
     calories,  and it's  driving, I  believe, in  part, the                                                                    
     obesity  epidemic  that  we are  seeing  in  our  young                                                                    
     children and our teenagers.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     In  Alaskan Native  people, the  rates of  diabetes are                                                                    
     going  up   tremendously.    We  actually,   in  Indian                                                                    
     country, have the highest rate  of increase of diabetes                                                                    
     of any  of the Indian  nations around the  country, and                                                                    
     it's of great concern to  us.  And there's no question,                                                                    
     it links  into obesity,  and when  obesity starts  at a                                                                    
     young  age,  it  leads  to  obesity  as  an  adult  and                                                                    
     increases the incidence of diabetes.   I really believe                                                                    
     ...  [in] decreasing  the soda  pop  consumption.   ...                                                                    
     Several studies  ... have shown that  this does impact,                                                                    
     positively, weight gain in young people.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Within our  rural communities, there have  been several                                                                    
     schools that  have taken the  initiative to  remove the                                                                    
     soda from the  school.  I am presently  in Kotzebue ...                                                                    
     doing an  annual diabetes clinic.   Kotzebue is  one of                                                                    
     the towns that have made  their high school a soda pop-                                                                    
     free environment.   Their machines here  now have milk,                                                                    
     juice, and water as the  beverage choices.  I can't say                                                                    
     this for  sure, but I  know from what I've  heard since                                                                    
     I've  been in  town  that  there's not  been  a lot  of                                                                    
     grumbling from  the kids,  and they  are very  eager to                                                                    
     pick other choices out of the machine instead.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     I  would  very  heartily  encourage  the  committee  to                                                                    
     consider [HB] 80.  I think  we need to pay attention to                                                                    
     the health of  our young people in Alaska,  and this is                                                                    
     one  very  positive step  forward  ...  in this  battle                                                                    
     against obesity.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 0939                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAPSNER  added, "This really isn't  just an Alaska                                                               
Native  issue or  an Indian  country issue.   The  school that  I                                                               
visited  was actually  in Juneau.   And  there weren't  very many                                                               
Native kids in the class.  This is a national epidemic."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0913                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JENNIFER APP, Alaska Advocacy Director, American Heart                                                                          
Association, noted that much of her planned testimony had                                                                       
already been given by others.  She stated:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     We  know that  our children  are getting  heavier.   We                                                                    
     know that  in Alaska  our children are  getting heavier                                                                    
     quicker than  the national average, unfortunately.   We                                                                    
     also know that  there are a multitude  of causes behind                                                                    
     this.  A  decrease in physical education is  a big one,                                                                    
     but a  corresponding one is an  increase in consumption                                                                    
     of fatty  and sugary  foods, and higher  calories every                                                                    
     day.  The statistics are really pretty amazing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Young Americans have  increased their annual soft-drink                                                                    
     consumption from 27 to 44  gallons between the '70s and                                                                    
     the '90s.  And further,  they are eating about 400 more                                                                    
     calories  a day  than they  did just  in the  mid-'80s.                                                                    
     And  they   don't  make  up  for   it  with  additional                                                                    
     exercise.   The combination of these  two things really                                                                    
     has an  impact.   There's a direct  correlation between                                                                    
     what we put in our bodies and how heavy we weigh.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0809                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. APP continued:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     This  also  corresponds  with, from  the  '70s  to  the                                                                    
     present, the placement of  vending machines in schools.                                                                    
     I don't think that there's  probably a person among us,                                                                    
     either testifying or listening  to the testimony today,                                                                    
     that can  recall that, as  a young kid, we  had vending                                                                    
     machines.   I'm 32,  and I know  I didn't  have vending                                                                    
     machines as  a child.  This  is a new phenomenon.   You                                                                    
     can track  vending machine placement  with the  rise in                                                                    
     obesity.  We have,  in essence, surrounded our children                                                                    
     with bad choices  and unhealthy choices.   I think that                                                                    
     this bill  is a good  step forward in terms  of looking                                                                    
     at what  very simple  choices we  can make  in offering                                                                    
     healthier choices.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     There's  one other  statistic I'd  like  to share  with                                                                    
     you.  About  60 percent of overweight  children have at                                                                    
     least  one high-risk  factor for  heart disease  by age                                                                    
     10.  This  is high cholesterol or  high blood pressure.                                                                    
     This is  amazing. ...  We have children  at age  10 who                                                                    
     are  obese who  are  demonstrating that  they are  good                                                                    
     candidates to  have heart  disease.   I can't  tell you                                                                    
     how   disturbing  this   is  to   the  American   Heart                                                                    
     Association, and to see that  this trend nationwide and                                                                    
     in Alaska is  getting worse and worse.  This  bill is a                                                                    
     good step in the right direction.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0769                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked if Ms. App would have any objection                                                                  
to diet pop.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. APP  responded that her  interpretation of the bill  was that                                                               
it  would allow  diet pop,  which isn't  necessarily a  healthful                                                               
option but does  have a lower calorie content.   She said it does                                                               
contain  aspartame  and  other   carcinogens  with  serious  side                                                               
effects.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0536                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SHELLEY McLAUGHLIN-TRUE, Dental Hygienist, Haines, testified:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     I work in private practice  here, one week a month, and                                                                    
     work for Indian Health Services  in Haines for the rest                                                                    
     of the  month, year-round.   I just  wanted to  lend my                                                                    
     support to  this bill.   I  hear a  lot about  diet and                                                                    
     obesity and  the diabetes  problem.   I'm here  to tell                                                                    
     you  that  the  dental  aspect   of  this  is  just  as                                                                    
     important.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Not  a  week  goes  by  that I  don't  see  one  child,                                                                    
     probably  more,  totally  "blown  out."   It's  a  very                                                                    
     distinctive decay,  right at the  gum line.   They come                                                                    
     in and it's  ... neglect, it's lack of  education.  The                                                                    
     place for education is in the  school.  And I really do                                                                    
     believe that these  machines don't have a  place in the                                                                    
     school.  We should be  consistent with the message that                                                                    
     we are  giving.  I don't  think that this is  a problem                                                                    
     that  is in  one socioeconomic  group only.   I  see it                                                                    
     with very  wealthy kids and  I see it in  the villages,                                                                    
     all over the place.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     It's a  very important  issue.  Dental  hygienists have                                                                    
     been fighting  this in the  schools, ... trying  to get                                                                    
     these machines  out of the  schools.  And  unless there                                                                    
     is something  that says  they can't  be there,  we lose                                                                    
     because  those  machines  make lots  of  money.    They                                                                    
     support  sports;  they   support  drama  classes;  they                                                                    
     support trips out of town,  and those trips out of town                                                                    
     are very important  to the schools.  I  think they need                                                                    
     to find another way to do it.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     I want  to lend my  support for this  bill.  I  wish it                                                                    
     were a  lot stricter than  what it is. ...  One million                                                                    
     dollars in Alaska  that is spent on Medicare  is a drop                                                                    
     in the bucket.  That  does not count the charity dental                                                                    
     work  that is  given away,  and  it does  not count,  I                                                                    
     don't  think, the  Indian Health  Services.   You can't                                                                    
     believe  the   amount  of  money   that  is   put  into                                                                    
     children's mouths in this state.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 0380                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANDERSON announced  that  public testimony  would be  kept                                                               
open and that HB 80 would be held over.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

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